Migracija
#TheFutureIsYours Migracijos valdymas naudojantis nuspėjama, subalansuota ir patikima sistema
Halt all immigration from non-european or non first word countries into the EU.
Pranešti apie netinkamą turinį
Ar šis turinys netinkamas?
Halt all immigration from non-european or non first word countries into the EU.
Ar šis turinys netinkamas?
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Pokalbis
What's the reasoning behind this?
Wanting europe to stay european? Just look at the propaganda the eu and ec produces, showing african settlers as the future of europe.
xenophobia
sprinkled with a little classism/racism
You realize of course that lower class Europeans have to compete with migrants for jobs, housing, and basic necessities? And that a never-ending labor supply reduces any chance of successful unionization and lower-class solidarity amongst native Europeans?
If anything, support for migration comes from the upper class sheltered from these realities. It is classism to reject these realities without further introspection.
I am personally more favorable of immigration, but your point is an important one. However, I believe that poor living standards amongst "lower class" EU citizens is a separate issue from immigration, which should be fought by a more equal wealth redistribution and not by "kicking down" on those who are even worse off.
I strongly support labor unions and believe that they could be part of a solution to the issue you mention. I don't know if outright mandatory unionization is realistic, but if immigrants were unionized they would change from being unwelcome competitors, undermining hard earned rights, to being fellow comrades fighting for those very same rights.
to prevent rapes, terrorist attacks, drug dealers etc.
Because as everyone knows, if you're born from a pure European lineage dating back at least 300 years, the laws of nature bend in your favour so that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be a rapist, drug dealer, murderer or commit ANY crime for that matter... FFS people, reel in the hate a little bit.
No, this does not prevent. But bring back people who are habituated with violence, with "the rape culture", drugs etc, surelly will not bother as well. Have a nice day ;)
Have you seen what they do in theyr countries? An idea that he grows up with it it will remain in his head for an eternity, have you ever seen how the civilians treats theyr people that steals let's say a bread? Have you ever seen a video on how they treat them? Spoiler: They kill him with fire...
Yes I know gow this works in their countries, and thats why we need to prevent them arriving here, otherwise they'll be a majority (just read many demographic books like: "le grand remplacement", "immigration ces vérites qu'on nous chace" "the strange deatg of europe") and we will have that in europe, what is unnaceptable.
Soyons clairs : Quand un xénophobe parle d'immigration en 2021, il pense aux ressortissants de pays dit musulmans, non ? Le débat public sur la place de l’Islam et des populations de confession musulmane dans les sociétés européennes prend une tournure de plus en plus hystérique. Faute d’informations et de recherches précises, on utilise des évènements certes dramatiques, mais n’impliquant qu’une infime fraction des populations en question (attentats de Paris, agressions de Cologne), pour en tirer des conclusions générales sur la capacité ou la volonté de dizaines de millions de personnes à s’intégrer et à vivre ensemble.
Entre 2000 et 2010, l’Europe intégrait un flux net d’un million de migrants par an, le chômage baissait et l’extrême-droite reculait. Le flux a été subitement divisé par trois de 2010 à 2015, alors même que les besoins augmentaient. Il est plus que temps que la France et l’Allemagne proposent une relance de l’Europe et de son modèle d’intégration. Cela passe par un moratoire sur la dette et un investissement massif dans les infrastructures et la formation. Faute de quoi les pulsions xénophobes risquent de tout emporter.
La xénophobie et le racisme sont en arrière plan de ce genre de proposition honteuse. Je ne veux pas rentrer dans le débat politique que cette question soulève mais juste rappeler :
Selon les statistiques de la permanence téléphonique nationale Viols Femmes Informations :
74 % des viols sont commis par une personne connue de la victime ;
25 % des viols sont commis par un membre de la famille ;
57 % des viols sont commis sur des personnes mineures (filles et garçons) ;
49 % des viols sont commis sans aucune violence physique ;
Dire que l'imigration est source de crimes, de viols ou de meutre est non seulement faux, mais c'est une propagande d'extrème droite dangereuse et indigne de l'Europe.
L’Europe devient-elle islamophobe?
Oui tous vous donnés sont vrai, mais il faut parler: pourquoi nous devons importer cette problème là? Vous avez vu les manifestations pro terrorisme de hamas? L'immigration c'est prendre en problème d'autre pays.
Et même s'ils faisent UN seule viol, ÇA SUFIT ils dovient venir ici pour avoir AIDÉ pas pour TURR VOLER ETC.
Non, les musulmans ne peuvent, ne veulent pas s'integrer, je vais vous envoyer quelques liens a ce suject là
https://www.valeursactuelles.com/societe/place-de-lislam-en-france-et-les-musulmans-quenpensent-ils-125163
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/one-in-four-british-muslimshave-some-sympathy-for-motives-behind-charlie-hebdo-attacks-10068440.html
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-british-muslims-support
Honestly, these comments scare me. We are seeing the negative side of many people, people who claim to love "unity, peace and democracy" but then call outsiders "rapists". Disgusting behaviour.
@matteo_rondi
Democracy only works in stable high-trust societies with a strong sense of unity. Unity typically requires the members of a community to compromise aspects of their individuality.
When citizens of member states joined the EU they expected to be joining a programme that would strengthen and promote europe and europeans.
Instead Angela Merkle, in all her wisdom, decided the mass import of non-europeans was a priority and forced europeans to compromise on many aspects of their culture and economic opportunities to accomodate non-eu migrants for the sake of "unity" and inclusiveness.
It is natural to expect those newcommers to also be willing to compromise, a portion of them have, no one denies, however it is clear that by in large they do not really want to adopt and engage in european culture, they only want economic opportunities which are in increasingly short supply.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41950826